Hi all. I am trying to sort out a puzzler for a student. I am trying to assign automation quick access for a hyperdraw element - notably Expression. I haven't really ever used much automation quick access although i understand the principle of clicking learn, moving the slider and then assigning the attribute in the list - However... How do you assign a parameter that isn't immediately visible? I have looked in the expert settings list and I can't see where you would assign Cc 11 (for example) as my target. My student wants to control the EXS 24 inbuilt strings with the mod wheel. Could you give me a walk through? Cheers! David

Hi David, The easiest way to do this is to go directly to the ESX24 and, in the router section, select a parameter as your target/destination and the mod wheel as you source. That's really the best way to do it!... It then can be saved as an EXS preset (not instrument) and called up at will! Steve

Steve. Thanks for the info.. However - despite being an experienced logic user, I haven't ever really used the routing section of the EXS24 - right back to the early days. I have tried to set the settings - feels like being a newbie after all these years, but I can't see how it's done in this case. I want to be able to use the mod wheel as a Cc 11 controller, so obviously I've got to convert the data or choose the right source and destination, but I'm just not getting my head around the routing. I'm uploading a skitch image - I'm being a bit dense... [img]http://img.skitch.com/20090323-f3ft8gme5ywn7jd4fuq1deme9s.preview.jpg[/img] Do you mean in this routing, or inside the instrument editing page? Cheers David

The Mod wheel is normally cc1. Cc11 is reserved for expression, which for all intents an purposes is midi volume. So simply route the mod wheel to volume! You see, the EXS24 is a blank slate when it comes to controller assignments.... so just make your own! CC1 (mod wheel) to wherever you want go... OK? Or did I miss the point (again)? :)

OK Steve, I get it to a point. However - there is a clear audible difference to my ears when I programme using CC7 and a relative CC11 for crescendos etc. I normally use VSL and use the expression control - but my students dont have that luxury. So... When using the route volume to CC1 method you describe, what am i routing..? Am i routing Cc7? If so, how do i get the mod wheel to control CC11 and not 7 or am i being too picky?? I have tried all kinds of "via" commands but it's not what i expect and i just don't think i have quite grasped it - Is there a tutorial anywhere that goes in more depth? Best David

All cc11 does is change volume (expression) at the midi device itself rather than at the channel strip. In this case that device is the EXS. Sooo... use any controller # your want to control the volume and/or the cutoff (for more expression) by routing that controller to the appropriate destination in the EXS's router.

That's really interesting Steve.. Last question on this topic: How do you use the "via" button? So if i set destination as "volume" and Cc1 as source - I see that "via" gives me a minimum and a maximum and that I can invert it - but i don't really get what the "via" does - can you explain - It's really great starting to understand this stuff! Thanks so much! David

Via determines how much of the controller enters the destination. You can assign another controller to "control" the via in effect giving you more control. For instance, let's say that you choose an LFO to control an oscillator. You can then determine how much of that Osc impacts the destination with another cc patched into the via!

That's making my brain hurt! I understood the theory of what you said, but I haven't really ever seen it in practice... gotta admit. To your knowledge, are there any presets or available example .exs instruments anywhere that show this in action so i can get my head around it? Cheers David